And they can also make the money without all of the time right. Now, is it still going to take time to be successful? Absolutely. But do you have to work eight hours a day to make full time income, not even close. I have a three, three day a week work week where I work at most three hours a day. So that is something that is totally attainable for people. And so my whole thing now is to help people build a business where they're no longer living in the leftovers, you know, what's leftover from their business? They actually get to design their own life and design a business that supports that.
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Hello. So good to be here. I'm super excited tonight. Thanks so much for having me on.
Yes. So I like to do these like little mini interviews about Christian women who have businesses and just tell us a little bit about you and your business and ask you some questions along the way.ected. So in the beginning of:
You do not ask them anymore. This person was
different, right? And so we have these experiences in life, we have these experiences in our business that require this change of us. And I was open to that. And I will tell you, that's the only reason I'm still in business. Because I have changed my business probably in a major way, probably four times since then. So we started as a marketing agency doing done for you services. And as part of that my, my first client that I had, she goes, Well, I also want to learn this, like what if we do something where you do it for me now. And then we transition into me doing it later. And I said, I love that idea. Because this gal was a diamond in doTERRA. So she is a personal brand. It's her that people were buying, right? They could buy doTERRA oils from anyone, and they wanted to buy them from her. But why? Right, so she needed to start showing up, she needed to get on camera, she needed to show up the same way online as she was in person. And so I created a curriculum and a kind of a process to help her learn how to do that. And that was what I really fell in love with. And I was like, Okay, this is where it's at. My clients don't, they don't want things done for them. They're women, they're, they want to do it, right, they want to learn it, they want to do it, they want to duplicate it. And so I really found that, teaching them and empowering them to learn how to show up for themselves and for their personal brand was where it was at. And as we move through things, I started seeing about eight clients a day. And that got nuts, so crazy. And it wasn't any more work than I was doing at my $11 An hour job. I was working 10 to 12 hours a day at my 11 hours a day. $11 An hour job. Now, I really didn't mind doing so much for myself, you know, make keeping the money for myself, but my body minded. So I have autoimmune. And I was actually diagnosed autoimmune about six to eight months into my business because I really, really was not taking care of me. I was taking care of everybody else. And that is my nature to I started paying for it. Yeah. And so I would have to go to the hospital, I would get laid up for a day or two, my adrenals were totally and completely burnt out. I wasn't eating between calls. I wasn't even giving myself a potty break between calls. At this time. I also had a side gig, I was working for Stitch Fix as a stylist, just to like make sure you know new in business, I wanted to make sure I had some something stable. Um, thankfully, I always did. But I was doing a lot, right. I was doing the most I'd ever done. But it felt good, right, but also felt horrible physically,
that burnout was real.: up every day. And so this was: apter here? And by October of: id one on one. And then after:
I love it. Because that's exactly who I talk to you. I want them to become unapologetic about what they want. Because a lot of people feel bad about saying, I don't want to do the laundry and the dishes. I want to outsource that. And then their mother in law voice comes in their head and saying that's not good enough. You're never good enough wife. Why didn't you make your husband food? But yeah, that's not what I want to do. And living that and being okay with that getting that permission. Right. What is what is your testimony? How did you come to Jesus? Because I feel like God is all wrapped up in that story.retired him from his job. In:
It's a lot easier when you put God in the mix. And when he's not in the mix. Because I have tried, I've tried to do by myself, it's just easier when Jesus is at the wheel, not me.
I know as as people who are entrepreneurs, we probably all have this control concept, right where we want to be. Not me. I don't I am not.
Never. Right. So there are things that I like to like, things that I should keep from the Lord, right, where it's like, yeah, oh, well, these are mine to handle. You, you can handle this stuff. But these are mine to handle. And so that's something that I've been working on, probably for the last like five years, really diligently and it's a it's like a daily thing, right? It's like, oh, well, I'm gonna leave that out here. Like, we're not going to that. I'll deal with that. That's my problem, you know, kind of thing. And, and God wants all of it. He wants to help you with all of it. So it, it can be a struggle as an entrepreneur, but like, honestly, there's no way no way that I could do this without being able to lean on the word like I would have quit. I wouldn't ever start it.
Yeah, right. No, I'll just say here and my $11 An hour job and figure it out. We'll make it work.
What was my decision wasn't safe. It wasn't loud. It was reckless. Yeah, it was super reckless. And I was like, Okay, Lord, I trust you. And that was the first time in my life where I did that and I was like, okay, worked out. Like I love it when he comes through like that, because you're like, I have no idea what I'm what I'm doing. I don't understand this. This does not make sense. Right? But God you called me this, but like I said, by any like human intelligent person would be like, That's a reckless decision you should not do. You should not do that.
I didn't even really tell anybody when I left my job, just like, I hadn't told very many people before we went nomadic and left San Diego, like, that was such a shocker to people. And now we're about to do something else. And it's just like, you this stuff, but it's like, I swear, you guys, it's not me. It's God telling me to do this. And being obedient, which is also scary. Yeah, it is.
It is. But it's it's fun. Like there's huge reward in it, right?
Mm hmm. So what's one thing you've learned on this journey to help you become unstoppable, just being like, I'm not going to stop doing this?
Well, I think it's just what I was just talking about is like, that my relationship with the Lord is fueling all of it, like, I would have quit. And it's funny, like, up until I had some I had some rough times recently, mentally. You know, being here in Washington with the rain. So hard after living in California for 10 years, like it is the seasonal depression thing is so real. And I like didn't ever give it any thought. And I was like, oh, man, but um, I, you know, I had some had some bouts, and for the first time in my career, I really thought about quitting. And I was like, Is this for me? And I was like, Girl, what would you do instead? Like, come on, you're just gonna, like, you're just gonna sit there with all this knowledge and not share it. Like how rude, and our gut would tell you have to share it. Like, how stupid Could you be to do that? And I was like, Okay, so like, I was gaslighting myself. But I didn't have the Lord to like, assure me like, Hey, this is just a season. This is not forever, then I for sure would have quit. But like I said, I would have never gotten started. So I would say my secret weapon my secret anything like that is daily communication relationship with Jesus.
Amen. I love that. I love that. So I asked you take a quiz. What is your spiritual gift? Do you think you're so I looked it up?
Oh, you did? Okay.
Yours was exhortation. Were you surprised?
Um, yeah. Cuz like that sounds like like really bad. That sounds like something a mobster would do or something. What does that mean?
It means that you are encouraged or you are just a person, there's always going to be like, yes, you gotta keep going. This is how you do it. It's literally who you are as a person, I think anyways, so even though it sounds like extortion, yeah. It is the opposite of that. The opposite.
exhort, not extort. Yes. exhort me like yes, I love you. You're doing great.
I would say yeah, I would say that's totally me.
Yeah, I agree. 100%. Like I was looking at the result. And I was like, Oh, yes, of course. I've talked to a lot of people about their gifts. And they're kind of confused about like, some of them will get like prophecy. And I'm like prophecy does not mean that you're just like a prophet. Here like, connecting with Jesus every day, and you can hear His voice and you can discern when people are of Jesus and when they're not. It does not necessarily mean you're like prophesying over everybody. But expectation that's 100%. You that's also mine, because I love just like reminding people who they are reminding people like, you got this, you got this, this will be fine. And turning back to Jesus and using their gifts. I feel like sometimes we don't use our gifts, because we're scared. I did it for 15 years. I don't do any extorting. And it it's boring. I don't like it. I hate it. But when I get to coach, my heart sets on fire. And I know that's that's how you know, you feel that joy, and all the fruits of the Spirit when you feel you're on the right path. So I love that. Me too. So what made you unapologetic about your faith? What were you like? Alright, I'm going all in on Jesus.
That has been a journey. And I would say that I'm still not totally there publicly, because I am so afraid to offend people. And this year specifically, I actually just wrote a caption that I'm going to be publishing here soon as that I am no longer going to downplay downplayed my faith. And I have put a lot of podcasts up recently on my podcast. And finally, it's not specifically Christian based, but it's not not either. And so I have had a lot of guests on you included, where we talk about the Lord and we talk about biblical truth and biblical principles. And I think a lot of people believe that that should be left out of business. And I'm really coming to this conclusion where it's like, no, like, we don't have a business without that, right? And I have just been like wrestling with this for so long because I remember the first time I tried to do it, there was a girl who commented that I don't even know. And this was the only troll comment I've ever got, honestly, like, people say like, oh, there's bullies on Instagram. Whoa, I have seen it all on Instagram. I do. I've never had a bully. Never except for this one time. So I had, it was like a New Year's posts that I was like, attributing it to my relationship with the Lord. And you know how great my last year was, and how great my next year is going to be? Because I put all my faith in God. And this girl comments and she's, you know, some one of these, like, woowoo girlies. And she was like, Oh, honey, I feel so sad for you that you put all your faith in this man in the sky when the power is actually and you and all this stuff. And I was like, Oh, gosh. This looks like oh, your truth and your power and blah, blah, blah. And I'm just like, girlfriend. I am a little tiny speck on this earth. I am nothing without Jesus. Like, come on. Yeah. So it did scare me a little bit. Because I had never had that happen before. I still have not had that happen since then. But you know, it's been it's been a journey that I've had to go on. Because I do have a lot of friends and clients that are not believers. And I don't want to offend them. But the thing is, is they know that I am. Yeah. And they still love me. So I don't think that they're going to unfriend me unfollow them, even if they're not believers. Exactly. So that was gonna be my next point is that I have not treated them that way, even though they're. So the fact that I expect them to treat me that way is weird. I should expect them to treat me the same way I treat them. And if they don't, then we're actually not friends.
So yeah, it has nothing to do with your faith or what you believe. Just exactly. So I love that because I feel like I spend a lot of time with woowoo people and I was like, Okay, I don't I am you just you over there. I'm gonna do my Jesus. Okay. Jesus made the universe it is not the universe that I believe in the Creator, I believe in the Creator. Right. So like, I get it, but I always treated them like my first thing was, I'm gonna treat you with the love of Jesus, and he's gonna love you no matter what. Right? A lot of those women would say to me, thank you. Because I have never spent time with a Christian woman, where I didn't feel like I was being judged. I was like, crazy. I was like, That is not my job. I'm not here to judge you. I'm here to love you. I'm trying to do Jesus's work. And that ideology of you can only be like this work like this. Do these things. You have to wear like dresses down to your ankles. Otherwise you're not a Christian woman is not my version of Christianity. It's Love your neighbor like you love yourself. First. The commandments. True to the Spirit. That's it. Yeah, man.
Had a conversation yesterday with my nail girl who? I don't know how it came up. But oh, we were talking about my podcast. And she was like, oh, what's your podcast about? And I was telling her and I said, Yeah, recently, I've had a lot more Christian topics on there. And she's like, Oh, you're a Christian. And I was like, Yeah, are you and she goes deconstructing? And I go, Oh, okay. I and I see so many people who are deconstructing, you know, on Tik Tok at all. And I'm like, you know, I totally can sympathize with you. I didn't grow up that way. I mean, I grew up on, if I'm being completely honest, I've had an easier time coming to the Lord because I grew up on the West Coast. I wasn't in the Bible Belt. I wasn't taught about purity culture, I wasn't shamed for things. Like there's all these things that come with the church, right now, Jesus, these don't come from Jesus. These come from men that want power and women that want power in the church, right? And I said, I said to her, you know, hurt people hurt people, and people want power. And none of that is from Jesus. And I said, actually don't believe in religion. I believe in a relationship with Jesus. And I all everything else is tradition. Everything else is you know, religion it is it's a practice in a ritual, which Jesus didn't condone. You know, you're my Bible girl.
You are my people.
He was like, you don't just do this to do it. You know, like, you're not supposed to tell people when you're fasting. You're not supposed to tell people. It's, it's not about the claps that you're gonna get. The attention you're gonna get is always about your A personal intimate relationship with the Lord. And a lot of what happens in the church, especially the Church of the 90s. And late or an earlier was about what it looks like, not what it feels like, right? And
I should kids out in church and then walk in with smiles and saying, Hi, what are you doing? And then you go back and you beat your kids again, like, right, and there's, you know, there was all this sexual abuse and, and but anywhere that there is Jesus, there's gonna be the devil trying to take him down. Right? And so it's, I can I can understand that there are people that have been hurt by the church, but you didn't get her by Jesus. No. And so, you know, I was telling her all these things. And she was like, Yeah, good point. Like, it's not Jesus that hurt me. It is the shame and the pride and the boasting, and all of these things. And I was like, Yeah, you can you conditioned church, like, you don't have to be a part of the church. Now, the Lord wants us to have fellowship and community. But you can do that in a women's Bible study. And you can do that in a different church, like wherever you're called to be. You don't have to go to the same church for the rest of your life and do the same rituals, just to do them. Here in my hometown, it has been so frustrating because we've been trying to try to find a church. And after you have encountered the Holy Spirit, and you have him, like, living in your heart, and you speak to him every day, it is so hard to enter a church where everyone there is just going through the motions. And they have never at least they've never admitted that they have had an encounter with Jesus. They don't have. Yeah, they don't have this testimony. They're just going to church because their parents told him to go to church. And they kept going to church because they know they need to bring their kids to church. And it's like, you can feel it when you walk into the room. And I'm like, Oh, y'all need a revival. Not the place. I gotta get out of here.
They're not speaking truth here. They're just doing feel good stuff. They're not you know, they're not worshiping on top of their lungs. Nobody's putting their hands up. There's no, there's no
Yeah. I think they just want it on easy mode. They want church on easy mode. And if I just show up and read my Bible today, and then do it again next Sunday, that'll be fine. I'm doing the things I'm gonna get into heaven. It'll be great. But like, it's not even about that's not the goal. The goal is not to get into heaven. The goal is to bring heaven to earth and have a religion, like you said, here on Earth, like, yeah, like our job here is to deconstruct the things that happened, all the church hurt, that's happened all the all the women with the big hair, and the shoulder pads that made other women feel like crap about themselves and judge them. Like, our job here is not to judge anyone, like you said, it is to be like Jesus, not to enforce the rules of the Bible, but to live them out.
Yes, I'm literally wearing my shirt today that says, leave the judging to Jesus. Love that. Because it's not for me, it's not for me to judge that's on you. It's like me, and I'm gonna love you accordingly. I love what is your favorite Bible verse? And why?
Goodness, I don't think I had chosen one at the beginning of the year. But I'm actually going to talk to you about a parable instead of because I think my Bible verses changed, like with the season that I'm in, but this parable, because it relates to business. I remember sitting I don't, I don't recall the name of the parable, but I, I recite it to people all the time. So I was sitting in church, and the talk that my pastor was giving was about the parable of the three men who one squanders his talents. So there's this. Like, what is he's like a farm worker, I can't remember a farm owner. He has three people that work for him. One man decides to sow the seeds that he's given from his boss, and grow something big. One guy kind of in the middle, you know, he saved some he grows some. And the last man buries his in the dirt and and says I was saving it for you, right? And so the master comes back, and he says, Okay, what do you guys do with those seeds that I gave you? And one guy says, I have all of this to harvest now and he goes, Well done. And then this guy says, Well, I have a little this and a little that, and the last guy had buried his in a way that they wouldn't grow. And he said to him, I gave you this so that you could multiply it. I gave you this so that this could be fruitful, and you wasted it. And the pastor was talking about, that we do this a lot with our gifts from the Lord and we, we squander them, we save them for later, right? Especially if you're if you're in a job right now. And at the time I was in my job and all these things. The Lord was speaking to me saying like, Hey, you're not gonna be in a job forever. Like, I hope you're ready. Right? Um, if you're in a job right now, or you're kind of like in the middle, you're, you're not doing what you know you should be or could be doing in your business, or you're kind of in the middle, like, you've got a job and you've got a business, but neither of them are thriving the way they should be, I want you to consider this parable, because the Lord gives us these things to be built with them, not to squander them not to waste them alone. And I will, I will be the first one to admit that I am a squander at my core. Like, that's my, my innate thing and, and it's probably some kind of trauma response from childhood. You know, I'm one of seven kids, you gotta, you gotta take what you can get up, you know, and there's not going to be none left for you, right? So I have this like, a thing where I will buy a shirt or a purse, right? I have this Coach purse that I love, and I never use it. Because I'm afraid that it's gonna get ruined. And like, I because I ruin things.
I mean, no humans.want to say that was like in:
i That's the parable of talents. And I love that parable. It's like one of my favorites. Because I'm like, God is giving you these gifts. You have to use it. Yes, he didn't give them to you to like, just hang out with. We are one of bajillion that will be formed. Right. So let's use our gifts while we can. Yeah, we got a mission. We all have a mission. Let's go do that thing. Whatever he's giving us do it. And like I said boldly because we are supposed to live boldly and voraciously for Christ. And I just love it. Especially women who have businesses because I feel like we're kind of a pariah in the church anyways. Like, the women that I hang out with at the homeschool Co Op. That's all they do. They just homeschool their kids. Girl, I love that for you. I don't think that my gifts were meant to just be in this 15 person Co Op. God made me for big bold things. So I'm gonna go try and do big bold things. And he's gonna show me where I'm supposed to go. Right.
And you want big bold things for your daughters. Right? Yeah, God, big bold things for you. So
sorry, my friend. She is very the purity kind of lady. And she was she's got three girls and three boys. And she was like, Well, when you got boys, you got to put them ahead of the girls. You know how that is? And I was like, What did you just say to me? Wait, what? And I literally laughed at her because I was like, she's gotta be joking, right? Like, she has got to be joking. She was joking. They are more important to her and her family dynamic. Then the girls. I don't know where in the Bible that says that. Helpers? Yes. Below the men. No, I did not see them.
Wow, that's really interesting. There's a pride 31 And I didn't see none of that. I
just say it.
Yeah, it's so interesting. You know, especially these days, people just take things too far. Right? Like, it's like, you know, you either have basically the man haters, or you've got that. And it's like, Well, the Bible says that women are created differently, but equally like, men and women have completely different functions as human beings. And so we are created for those functions. But men are not to be put before women.
No, not like not like she was saying I like best.
If we're real honest, men are nothing without women.
Like men. Like literally you can't have a baby on your own. They can't that will women are function. We are the organizers. We are builder makers. Yes. We are co creators. They provide
the the resources, right, whether that's food, money, muscle, whatever it is, right. They provide the resources, and we're the ones that make it into something. Yeah. And both are equally needed. Yeah. For sustaining Life can't do one without the other. Right? I in my family don't cook. I don't cook. I just I don't. I also don't do that. I am not.
Well, so you know, my husband stays home, right? He's, he's getting ready to go back to work. And, you know, I've had these talks with God where like, I'll tell you, girlfriend, I have not cleaned a toilet in 10 years, probably. Because that's just not my thing. I also do not clean the dishes like I do not. I will cook all day long. I love to cook. But I will not. I'm not a cleaner. I'm alert. I'm super allergic to dust. And so I can't do that. I will tell you guys, if you have extra income, because you have created an exponential offer suite in your business, you can afford to hire a cleaner and that is okay. You do not okay, please do that.
I will just say cleaning is not my gift. Like I am not ever going to do that. Well, like because I just hate it. Yeah, but, um, I was wrestling with God, a couple months ago about this, this idea of really leaning into my feminine energy. Because as someone who has been in business for all these years, retired my husband, and I'm now the provider financially, it created a lot of this masculine energy, right. And I decided that I really don't like it. And I was like, this is actually not where I want to be. I also have PCOS. And like, I have to take hormones to have estrogen, right. And so I have this abundance of testosterone anyway. And I was like, this is not where I want to be. And I don't think this is where God wants me like, I need to lean into my feminine energy. And I'm talking to Jesus about it. Right? And he's like, so go clean the toilet. And I was like, no. The damn toilet. And so I didn't, I didn't clean the toilet. And I'm continuing to have hardships in my life and you know, talk to Jesus. And he's like, we'll go clean the toilet. And I'm like, No. Like, that doesn't make any sense. No, I didn't think that the toilet was disgusting or anything. It was just like this thing. Like, prove it. You know, go. Yeah. And I'm not saying that the cleaning the toilet is women's work. Because like I said, I have not been cleaning that toilet for years. And I was obedient and I cleaned the toilet and everything turned around. But I'm not saying you have to clean the toilet in order for your life to work out. That was just a, that was a test.
I love that though. That's like, that's, that's good. I cooked dinner the other day. And I felt like that was a test that I did it.
I saw that I saw your little chicken tenders and cook dinner. That's awesome.
I did. But you know, it sounds pretty good. Your gift, like, God is not asking you to do things that are not within your giftings like maybe sometimes, but not, not in a way where you're just gonna, like, absolutely hate your life all the time. Like, God is not a dictator. So he's, I mean, you maybe chose a husband that likes to cook or cooks well, and that balances you out? And that's totally fine.
Yeah, it does. And I love it. Because he likes to take care of our family in that way. Like, yeah, meals, and it makes him It makes him feel good and makes me feel good.
And there doesn't need to be gender roles in that way. You know, like, for me, I completely stepped out of every gender role I was ever supposed to have or society deemed that I was supposed to have. And I was like, Okay, let's not make this about gender roles. But like, I do want to be cooking for my husband more because I actually enjoy it. I do want to clean the toilet here and there. Because it makes him happy because he doesn't have to do it. Right. I can do it every day. I'm not even gonna do it every month.
But that's how I feel. I could in some night. Maybe a couple more weeks. I'll cook again. Rice.
It was so good having you on the podcast and I love you. Is there anything that people can get a hold of you? How can they get ahold of you?
What can they go further with you on? Do you have a freebie you're giving away? Tell me all the things
I do. So I mostly hang out on Instagram, you can find me at Samantha harris.co. And there you will find actually two freebies. So both things that are going to steer you in the direction or help guide you in the direction of stepping into exponential income, allowing yourself to really start living a life that you want no no longer living in the leftovers. what's leftover from the business that you built that was supposed to give you freedom but now is reactionary. So, one of the freebies is called the membership prep worksheet. That is for people who know they want to do a membership. They want to get everything out on paper, really start organizing their ideas and kind of guiding them towards some best practice. says. So that is one option for you. The other option is called the Office Suite edit. And it does similarly, kind of guide you through all that stuff. But it's more for a holistic view of your entire office suite. It really walks you through an audit of like, hey, what does this look like versus what do I want it to look like? And what steps do I need to take to start making this happen? So those two things, and you can grab both of them if you want, they're totally free. We'll get you in my circle, they will sign you up for my email list where you can hear from me every single week, once or twice a week. And I would love to hear from you too. I'd love to connect in the DMS. I'm a big people person, like I'm not here just to sell you something I want to be friends. So hop into my DMs I'd love to talk to you love to hear what you thought of this episode. And I look forward to hearing from you.
Awesome. I'm so excited. Thank you so much.
Thanks so much. And I'll talk to you soon. Bye. Bye.
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